Can Investing Drive Social Impact?

Can Investing Drive Social Impact? 
Interviewer Deborah Aarts talks with Prof. Wenjue Knutsen, Smith School of Business, on what happens when private capital does public good—and expects a return.

Interviewer Deborah Aarts talks with Prof. Wenjue Knutsen, Smith School of Business, on what happens when private capital does public good—and expects a return.

Can Investing Drive Social Impact? By Deborah Aarts from an interview with Wenjue Knutsen. With kind acknowledgements to Smith Business Insight.

What role can private investment play in addressing social problems? Should it be involved at all? 

These are big questions that touch on several of today’s most relevant business issues: increasing environmental, social and governance (ESG) expectations, heightened interest in sustainable finance, changing attitudes towards public policy, and the very role of business in society. 

They’re questions Professor Wenjue Knutsen thinks about a lot. As an associate professor who studies non-profits and social enterprises for both Smith School of Business and the Queen’s University School of Policy Studies, she’s noticed growing interest over the last decade in what’s broadly known as “social impact investing”—generally speaking, the practice of directing private capital to public good, with the expectation of returns. 

In conversation with contributor Deborah Aarts, Knutsen explains how social impact investing works and why its promise of a “blended return” is gaining currency.

What exactly are we talking about when we discuss social impact investing?

Essentially, social impact investing is a financing tool that provides funds or investments to social enterprises, which is a big umbrella term that refers to organizations that simultaneously pursue business and social impact activities. Some of these are non-profits that require income to achieve financial sustainability and independence; others are for-profit businesses that generate revenue from products or services that further a social mission, such as a company that sells organic fertilizer.

What unites them is their focus on a double bottom line: the nature and extent of the investor’s returns often depends, at least in part, on the recipient organization’s ability to deliver on its social mandate.

That’s part of what makes it so exciting to me: Traditionally, most investors are in the game to get a financial return, first and foremost. Here, it’s a totally different animal. They’re also looking at the social mission and the social impact of the organization they’re funding. 

What does this look like in practice? 

Can Investing Drive Social Impact? 
Interviewer Deborah Aarts talks with Prof. Wenjue Knutsen, Smith School of Business, on what happens when private capital does public good—and expects a return.

Social impact investments can be led by pretty much any investment institution, from fund managers to financial institutions to family offices. 

A good example that comes to mind is based in Brazil. In 2009, a group of socially-minded young entrepreneurs there started an organization called Vox Capital, with the promise of a “blended return.” They raised money for the fund from banks, private investors and families with similar values. They then made a series of 20 investments in startup social enterprises working to fundamentally change peoples’ lives, through improving such things as health care, housing and education. 

What makes this different from typical ethical investing funds can be seen through the nature of the returns: For example, a significant proportion of the fee that Vox draws is dependent on whether investees have reached measurable targets related to social impact. This shows social impact investing’s commitment to social causes. In comparison, the primary objective of ethical investing or socially responsible investing is still financial returns. 

Filling a gap – but what’s really in it for investors?

It can be helpful to think of it in financial terms, but in a different way than you might think. Say you’re financially secure, with an annual budget set aside for doing good in the world. If you make a donation, that money is gone for you, aside from a small amount you’ll get back on your tax return. It’s a one-time, one-way transaction. 

But if, instead, you divert that money into a social impact investment fund that supports organizations doing social good, you stand to not only keep your principal but, hopefully, to make a return on it. Your money can therefore also be recycled and used repeatedly. You can help one group of people now, and another in the future, and so on.  

Prof. Knutsen’s work cites a 2020 survey of social impact investors, in which a majority said they expect returns at or close to market rates. But skeptics might counter that it’s unrealistic to expect competitive returns while also prioritizing social impact—that some trade-off is inevitable. So, what could be a reasonable return for investors in the social impact space? 

Research in the social impact investing space is still limited, so we don’t have aggregated data, but we can point to individual cases. For example, with Vox Capital in Brazil: A few years into operations, their goal for returns was the rate of inflation, plus six per cent. They also suggested that, perhaps, a return of four per cent would be too low, but 20 per cent would be too high. But it depends on what kind of organizations the investment is supporting.  There are definite risks in this space. And, as with all investments, there’s a chance that the financial return will be zero. And you have to be honest about this possibility. But the difference here is that a social impact investor does not just look at the numbers. They balance the financial risk with what they’re looking for in terms of social impact. 

Will interest in social impact investing grow beyond a niche investment strategy?

Can Investing Drive Social Impact? 
Interviewer Deborah Aarts talks with Prof. Wenjue Knutsen, Smith School of Business, on what happens when private capital does public good—and expects a return.

In fact, late last year, the Global Impact Investing Network estimated the size of the worldwide impact investing market to be US$1.164 trillion, the first time that figure has topped the US$1 trillion mark. It’s still not fully mainstream yet, but it’s playing a bigger role in our economy. 

There are several reasons for this, but three main ones come to mind: First, lots of people say our society’s going downwards. But I think our business world is definitely going upwards, at least in terms of developing conscientiousness related to social impact. You can’t find a big-name company that does not have a corporate social responsibility practice. That’s a big change.

Second, we’re moving to a place where blended values—mixing profit and social good—are becoming more and more common. People are looking for meaning in their life and in their work. 

Third, our society has a lot of unfulfilled gaps related to social issues. People are aging and we have higher demands related to our quality of life. That’s when social impact investing can try to take off some of the pressure. 

Social impact bonds (SIBs) – are they privatizing what should be a public responsibility?

SIBs are complicated, but I think of them as a way for investor groups to fund a pilot project for the government. These tend to be intervention or preventative services, like initiatives meant to prevent people from committing crimes or entering the foster-care system. 

The investor group can fund a project, and if the agency providing services hits an established target—say, 22 out of 30-ish at-risk children in a preventative program stay with their mothers, as was the case with the Sweet Dreams initiative in Saskatchewan, the first SIB in Canada—the government will reimburse basically all the money that the private investor put forward, plus, usually, a percentage return. But if they don’t hit the target, that means the project doesn’t work—the pilot failed. The investor may be out of its money, but the government is not. In fact, it has just saved a lot more money by not implementing a program that doesn’t work broadly. 

So the SIB is not filling a gap in the social safety net with private interests, so much as it is giving governments a chance to lessen their risk around new approaches to delivering social services, and, if successful, to lower participation in—and costs related to—systems like foster care and justice. 

Why should money-makers care about social impact investing?

What’s the purpose of your life? What’s the purpose of your business? Is it really just about wanting more money? Isn’t that getting boring? 

A lot of people get into social impact investing because they’re looking for meaning. And it doesn’t have to be hard. There are lots of ways you can make a social impact without lifting a finger. All you need to do is put the money with somebody who will do the work for you. 

Think about what you care about the most in this world. Think of the social impact your investments could make towards that. You may be able to do a lot more with social impact investing than with traditional philanthropy. So I’d say: Think cautiously, think carefully, but really think about it.


Wenjue Knutsen and Deborah Aarts

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